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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;ve made my point&#8230;. by sanefeminist</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/i-think-ive-made-my-point/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>sanefeminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but I&#039;m tired.  Tired of stupidity.  Thank you for stopping in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but I&#8217;m tired.  Tired of stupidity.  Thank you for stopping in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;ve made my point&#8230;. by asrais</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/i-think-ive-made-my-point/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>asrais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad could have been an interesting dicussion</description>
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		<title>Comment on Blog-land&#8217;s &#8220;Rad Fems&#8221;&#8230;Rush Limbaugh in disguise? by sanefeminist</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/blog-lands-rad-femsrush-limbaugh-in-disguise/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>sanefeminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God I hope not!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Blog-land&#8217;s &#8220;Rad Fems&#8221;&#8230;Rush Limbaugh in disguise? by a</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/blog-lands-rad-femsrush-limbaugh-in-disguise/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rescuing, its nice to see your trying but really its a lost cause. check the urban dictionary for feminist if you dont believe me. the feminist movement is over, and the pendulumn must swing the other way before returning in your favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rescuing, its nice to see your trying but really its a lost cause. check the urban dictionary for feminist if you dont believe me. the feminist movement is over, and the pendulumn must swing the other way before returning in your favor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sane feminism as defined by me&#8230;. by sanefeminist</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/sane-feminism-as-defined-by-me/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>sanefeminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, Justice, I quite like your protest at being &quot;elevated.&quot;  I&#039;ve always liked rebels and iconoclasts.  So feel free to get in my face as long as there is no condescension.  (I suspect I didn&#039;t need to encourage you to be direct and plain spoken....lol!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, Justice, I quite like your protest at being &#8220;elevated.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve always liked rebels and iconoclasts.  So feel free to get in my face as long as there is no condescension.  (I suspect I didn&#8217;t need to encourage you to be direct and plain spoken&#8230;.lol!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sane feminism as defined by me&#8230;. by sanefeminist</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/sane-feminism-as-defined-by-me/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>sanefeminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.  I appreciate different perspectives as they help me have a more balanced assessment.  That doesn&#039;t mean I roll over when anyone disagrees, but I certainly think about it.

And your point is well taken.  Phrased this way, I see the problem with the implied (or explicit) value judgment.  Perhaps not better behavior but different anyway.

And now, my turn to say &quot;here&#039;s the thing.&quot;   I  have a temper myself.  And I express it.  Still, I&#039;m open to hearing other perspectives and in fact enjoy having my lapses in logic pointed out.  Lara really set my teeth on edge and I responded in kind.  

I very much object to the sort of lock-step you-must-agree-with-me-or-I&#039;ll-totally-discount-anything-you-say approach I see dominating those blogs.  And it pisses me off.

I&#039;ve read some of your blog and disagree with much of it.  But I sense a willingness on your part to think independently and to voice your views.  I like that.  I think I&#039;m somewhat like that, also.

And I&#039;ll send you a note quite soon.  Who knows...we might find it interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.  I appreciate different perspectives as they help me have a more balanced assessment.  That doesn&#8217;t mean I roll over when anyone disagrees, but I certainly think about it.</p>
<p>And your point is well taken.  Phrased this way, I see the problem with the implied (or explicit) value judgment.  Perhaps not better behavior but different anyway.</p>
<p>And now, my turn to say &#8220;here&#8217;s the thing.&#8221;   I  have a temper myself.  And I express it.  Still, I&#8217;m open to hearing other perspectives and in fact enjoy having my lapses in logic pointed out.  Lara really set my teeth on edge and I responded in kind.  </p>
<p>I very much object to the sort of lock-step you-must-agree-with-me-or-I&#8217;ll-totally-discount-anything-you-say approach I see dominating those blogs.  And it pisses me off.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read some of your blog and disagree with much of it.  But I sense a willingness on your part to think independently and to voice your views.  I like that.  I think I&#8217;m somewhat like that, also.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll send you a note quite soon.  Who knows&#8230;we might find it interesting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sane feminism as defined by me&#8230;. by justicewalks</title>
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		<dc:creator>justicewalks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing.  I disagree with your assessment that you were &quot;attacked&quot; when you voiced your opinion on the thread at Lara&#039;s.  I don&#039;t really know anything about Lara at all, so I&#039;m not saying that out of some sense of loyalty to any group or anything.  I don&#039;t cyber-hang with those women, if you catch my drift.

And, yet, I can see why they may have been less than welcoming of your ingression.  So, that&#039;s all I&#039;ll say about that, other than to say that I won&#039;t be elevated above them under the auspices of my own &quot;better&quot; behavior, in comparison with their &quot;boorishness,&quot; or whatever.  You haven&#039;t yet insinuated that I&#039;m totally illogical, hysterical, and unjustly enraged in my outlook just yet, all of which I got the feel of when I cursorily browsed the thread in question, so, please consider that perhaps that is why I have seemed less hostile.  It&#039;s no indication of any superior character on my part, so I&#039;d appreciate it if you wouldn&#039;t try to distinguish me from them in that way.  I&#039;m not part of their group, but I also do not consider myself a total outsider.

Anyway, I&#039;m not sure if you noticed that I don&#039;t accept comments on my blog.  I conduct most communications by email, so please feel free to send me a note.  I don&#039;t normally post comments to other people&#039;s blogs very much, but thanks for extending your welcome to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing.  I disagree with your assessment that you were &#8220;attacked&#8221; when you voiced your opinion on the thread at Lara&#8217;s.  I don&#8217;t really know anything about Lara at all, so I&#8217;m not saying that out of some sense of loyalty to any group or anything.  I don&#8217;t cyber-hang with those women, if you catch my drift.</p>
<p>And, yet, I can see why they may have been less than welcoming of your ingression.  So, that&#8217;s all I&#8217;ll say about that, other than to say that I won&#8217;t be elevated above them under the auspices of my own &#8220;better&#8221; behavior, in comparison with their &#8220;boorishness,&#8221; or whatever.  You haven&#8217;t yet insinuated that I&#8217;m totally illogical, hysterical, and unjustly enraged in my outlook just yet, all of which I got the feel of when I cursorily browsed the thread in question, so, please consider that perhaps that is why I have seemed less hostile.  It&#8217;s no indication of any superior character on my part, so I&#8217;d appreciate it if you wouldn&#8217;t try to distinguish me from them in that way.  I&#8217;m not part of their group, but I also do not consider myself a total outsider.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m not sure if you noticed that I don&#8217;t accept comments on my blog.  I conduct most communications by email, so please feel free to send me a note.  I don&#8217;t normally post comments to other people&#8217;s blogs very much, but thanks for extending your welcome to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If you think porn is harmless&#8230; by sanefeminist</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/if-you-think-porn-is-harmless/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>sanefeminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagreeing with Sanefeminist will get you kicked off the site?  When hell freezes over!  The whole POINT is that we can disagree, discuss, and learn from each other.

Now, to your comments specifically.  First, have we decided what &quot;porn&quot; is?  Maybe we need to make sure we&#039;re talking about the same thing.

Secondly....well, let&#039;s answer the first question before we go any further!  Is anything erotic or any nudity porn?  Nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagreeing with Sanefeminist will get you kicked off the site?  When hell freezes over!  The whole POINT is that we can disagree, discuss, and learn from each other.</p>
<p>Now, to your comments specifically.  First, have we decided what &#8220;porn&#8221; is?  Maybe we need to make sure we&#8217;re talking about the same thing.</p>
<p>Secondly&#8230;.well, let&#8217;s answer the first question before we go any further!  Is anything erotic or any nudity porn?  Nope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If you think porn is harmless&#8230; by asrais</title>
		<link>http://rescuingfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/if-you-think-porn-is-harmless/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>asrais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m beyond help.

Porn did not rape that woman.  They were rapsists, they were abusers and they were bad people in general. 

Correlation is not causation. To say so is a cop out for the men responsible. The people who assult are personally responsible, no excuses, no porn made them do it. 

My husband watches wrestling on TV, he doesn&#039;t go out and punch people randomly (or even his boss when his boss is being unreasonable and my partner thinks his boss probably deserves to be punched).

I fantasize about some pretty dark stuff that would make me SICK SICK SICK if it really happened.

Most people can watch porn, play violent video games and look at women dressed in a revealing matter without engaging in any of the implied activities. 

There is a larger culture out there. People who believe that others exsist solely for their benefit, who see certain walks of life as useable, disposable. This is the problem. 

Some porn does play on that belief. But to blanket statment say that all porn is bad, all porn causes rape is errenous, IMHO. Maybe this will get me kicked off the sane feminist side. But, there it is ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m beyond help.</p>
<p>Porn did not rape that woman.  They were rapsists, they were abusers and they were bad people in general. </p>
<p>Correlation is not causation. To say so is a cop out for the men responsible. The people who assult are personally responsible, no excuses, no porn made them do it. </p>
<p>My husband watches wrestling on TV, he doesn&#8217;t go out and punch people randomly (or even his boss when his boss is being unreasonable and my partner thinks his boss probably deserves to be punched).</p>
<p>I fantasize about some pretty dark stuff that would make me SICK SICK SICK if it really happened.</p>
<p>Most people can watch porn, play violent video games and look at women dressed in a revealing matter without engaging in any of the implied activities. </p>
<p>There is a larger culture out there. People who believe that others exsist solely for their benefit, who see certain walks of life as useable, disposable. This is the problem. </p>
<p>Some porn does play on that belief. But to blanket statment say that all porn is bad, all porn causes rape is errenous, IMHO. Maybe this will get me kicked off the sane feminist side. But, there it is &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sane feminism as defined by me&#8230;. by sanefeminist</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanefeminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, we disagree on that point.  I believe there are decent men.  The question now is, can we disagree and remain respectful of each other?  Sanity is the ability to allow diversity of opinion.

I  think I can learn a great deal from you although I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll ever come over to the &quot;you can&#039;t trust men -- any man&quot; viewpoint.  But I&#039;m very interested in continued discussion with you.  

I&#039;ve been reading blogs lately.  On many blogs, when disagreement surfaces, especially on this point, it turns into an attack.  Your responses are thoughtful and respectful.  If we can discuss these things, I&#039;d very much like to visit your blog and encourage you to post here as well.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, we disagree on that point.  I believe there are decent men.  The question now is, can we disagree and remain respectful of each other?  Sanity is the ability to allow diversity of opinion.</p>
<p>I  think I can learn a great deal from you although I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever come over to the &#8220;you can&#8217;t trust men &#8212; any man&#8221; viewpoint.  But I&#8217;m very interested in continued discussion with you.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading blogs lately.  On many blogs, when disagreement surfaces, especially on this point, it turns into an attack.  Your responses are thoughtful and respectful.  If we can discuss these things, I&#8217;d very much like to visit your blog and encourage you to post here as well.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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